Chapter 15
VATICAN COUNCIL II
The World Council Of Churches
and the
Seventh-Day Adventist Church
If unity could be secured only by the compromise
of truth and righteousness, then let there be
difference and even war.
GC, p. 45
n 1958, one year after the publication of the book, “Seventh-day Adventists Answer”
Questions on Doctrine, Pope John XXIII called for a great Ecumenical Council of the Roman
Catholic Church. This historic Council would include Protestant denominational
“observers.” After four years of preparation, the Second Vatican Council convened in Rome on
October 11, 1962.
“The participants with full voting rights were all the bishops of the Roman Catholic church, of
both the Western and Eastern rites, superiors-general of exempt religious orders, and prelates
with their own special spheres of jurisdiction,” Richard McBrien wrote. “Non-Catholic Christian
churches and alliances and Catholic lay organizations were invited to send observers. These
observers, however, had neither voice nor vote in the council deliberations.” (Richard P. McBrien,
“Bibliography,” Abbott, W. A., ed., The Documents of Vatican II, 1966, emphasis supplied).
“Early in 1965 the World Council of Churches appointed a working group to enter into formal
dialogue on matters of mutual interest and concern, with a similar group to be appointed by the
[Vatican] Secretariat for the Promotion of Christian Unity.” (Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia,
Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism”).
“When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by
them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their
institutions,” Ellen White warned, “then Protestant America will have formed an image of the
Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.” (The
Great Controversy, page 445, emphasis supplied).
Seventh-day Adventist Church Position On Ecumenism
“The General Conference Committee has never voted an official statement regarding the
Seventh-day Adventist relationship to the Ecumenical movement as such,” so states the SDA
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Encyclopedia. “A book has been written dealing at length with the subject (B. B. Beach,
Ecumenism-Boon or Bane? Review and Herald, 1974). . ..” (ibid., Seventh-day Adventist
Encyclopedia, Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis supplied).
In 1973 the very same B. B. Beach coauthored a book with Lukas Vischer, Secretary of the
World Council of Churches. The title of the book was, So Much In Common, “Between the
World Council of Churches and the Seventh-day Adventist Church.” (See below, “So Much In
Common”). This was also the same B. B. Beach who in 1977 presented the Seventh-day
Adventist Church in symbol on a Gold medallion to Pope Paul VI; See below, Chapter #18,
“The Invaders”). Yet in view of these two facts, the contemporary SDA leadership is content to
let Beach present the denomination’s position on the subject of Ecumenism by refering the
student of history to the book, Ecumenism-Boon or Bane.
“Thus, while there is not exactly an official position, there are clear indications regarding the
Seventh-day Adventist viewpoint,” the SDA Encyclopedia states, “A person’s attitude toward
ecumenism will be determined by the individual’s concept of the nature of the church.” (ibid.,
Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia, Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis
supplied).
And just what are those “clear indications regarding the Seventh-day Adventist viewpoint” on
Ecumenism? The Church leadership says out of one side of their mouth that, “A person’s
attitude toward ecumenism will be determined by the individual’s concept of the nature of the
church.” But while the individual has an opinion about “Ecumenism” and “the nature of the
Church,” what is SDA Church leadership’s concept of Ecumenism and the nature of the Church?
The SDA Encyclopedia gives us a clear answer to this question:
“Seventh-day Adventists believe that all sincere Christians, of whatever communion, constitute
the people of God. . . ,” leadership states. “They regret that their sense of world mission makes
membership in the National Council and the World Council impracticable.” (ibid., Seventh-day
Adventist Encyclopedia, Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis supplied).
When Church leadership states, “Seventh-day Adventists believe,” what they really mean is what
the “sane leadership” of the SDA Church believes; “to them it may be merely the position of the
majority group of sane leadership which is determined to put the brakes on any members who seek to
hold views divergent from that of the responsible leadership of the denomination.” (Donald G.
Barnhouse, Eternity, 10/56, emphasis supplied). Since the Evangelical Conferences of 1955-56,
SDA Church leadership has been eagerly telling the world what Seventh-day Adventists believe.
Indeed, the Church has published, and offered to all at a very low cost, a book titled, Seventh-day
Adventists Believe, “27 Statement of Fundamental Beliefs.” But the current theological division in
Adventism testifies that many Adventists do not believe the same “new” theology being
promoted by the leadership of the Church.
“They [Seventh-day Adventists] regret that their sense of world mission makes membership in the
National Council and the World Council impracticable.” (ibid., Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia,
Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis supplied).
It is SDA Church leadership that “regrets” they cannot join hands with Babylon in the “National
Council and the World Council” of Churches. This, however, is not the “regret” of faithful
Adventist laymen.
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“However, SDA’s [leadership] seek to work in fellowship with other Christians in every way that
does not involve a compromise of what they understand to be their mission as a people.” (ibid.)
Back in 1926, long before ecumenism was in vogue, the General Conference Executive Committee adopted an
important statement that is now a part of the General Conference Working Policy (075). This declaration has
significant ecumenical implications. The concern of the statement was for the mission field and relationships
with other “missionary societies.” However, the statement has now been broadened to deal with “religious
organizations” in general. It affirms that Seventh-day Adventists “recognize those agencies that lift up
Christ before men as a part of the divine plan for evangelization of the world, and. . .hold in high esteem
Christian men and women in other communions who are engaged in winning souls to Christ.” In the
church’s dealings with other churches, “Christian courtesy, frankness, and fairness” are to prevail. . ..
(ibid., Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia, Second Revised Edition, 1995, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis
supplied).
“Back in 1926, long before ecumenism was in vogue, the General Conference Executive
Committee adopted an important statement that is now a part of the General Conference
Working Policy.” This first sentence statement proves that Ecumenism was the position of SDA
Church leadership, not the position of Adventist laymen. Indeed, Church leadership has bent
over backwards to assure Adventist laymen that the Church has never been an “official” member
of the National or World Council of Churches – but that the Church is merely an “observer” to
these councils of Babylon. Notice that SDA Encyclopedia states that, “This declaration has
significant ecumenical implications.”
Although the General Conference policy voted back in 1926 was a statement to deal with “other
missions,” contemporary leadership admits that, “the statement has now been broadened to deal
with `religious organizations’ in general.” Great Ecumenical strides have been made since 1955.
“Today the World Council of Churches has as its goal not so much organizational union as
“mutual recognition,’” the Compilers of the SDA Encyclopedia state. “What this means is that
the different churches and denominations are to recognize each other’s baptism, Communion
service (Eucharist), and ordained ministry. During the last decade of the twentieth century a key
ecumenical term is Koinonia, that is, communion, fellowship, cooperation, and caring
partnership.” (ibid., Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia, Art. “Ecumenism,” emphasis supplied).
The churches and denominations of Babylon “are to recognize each other’s baptism, Communion
service (Eucharist).” So that is the reason a Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church chaired an
Ecumenical weekend titled “Baptism, Communion and Eucharist” at Union College, Nebraska,
Seventh-day Adventist Church
Baptism will be the theme of the Roots and Branches Convocation, Thursday through Sunday at [Seventhday
Adventist] Union College [Nebraska], sponsored by Interchurch Ministries of Nebraska.
Speakers include William Cardinal Keeler, archbishop of Baltimore and president of the National
Conference of Catholic Bishops; the Rev. Michael Kinnamon, dean of Lexington Theological Seminary in
Kentucky; the Rev. Gayle Felton of Duke University Divinity School; and Brigalia Bam, general secretary of
the South African Council of Churches.
The event is the first in three-year series of annual convocations for laypersons and clergy, said Daniel Davis,
executive secretary of the Interchurch Ministries of Nebraska.
More than 200 people from across Nebraska and around the country are expected to attend Convocations
in 1996 and 1997 will focus on communion and ministry. “Together with baptism, they represent the three
key ecumenical issues facing efforts at church cooperation and unity worldwide,” Davis said.
The convocation is an opportunity for people “to come together and celebrate together, worship together,
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talk together, enjoy together,” he said. “So far as we know this is the first time anywhere this kind of thing
has been done. . ..”
Edward Cardinal Cassidy, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, was scheduled
to attend but at the last minute was sent by the pope to Romania. Monsignor John Radano, a staff member
of the Pontifical Council, will attend as his representative.
A worship service at 7 p.m. at College View Seventh-day Adventist Church, 3015 S. 49th St., with
[Cardinal] Keeler speaking on “Baptism and the Community” is open to the public. . ..
Lincoln Journal Star, Saturday, October 21, 1995. (emphasis supplied).
“Communion and ministry, `Together with baptism, they represent the three key ecumenical issues
facing efforts at church cooperation and unity worldwide,’” the Lincoln Journal Star reported.
“The convocation is an opportunity for people `to come together and celebrate together, worship
together, talk together, enjoy together.’” What do pioneer Adventists say about worshiping
together, talking together, enjoying together, and, oh yes, “celebrating” together [there’s that
word again] with the fallen Churches of Babylon?
Here is a man, for instance, who does not agree with us on the subject of the second coming of Christ. He
believes that we are wholly mistaken in regard to this great truth. Can we feel union with such a man, and
take him into our fellowship and communion? We cannot. We can but feel that he shuts his eyes to some of
the clearest light of the Scriptures, and refuses assent to their most unequivocal testimony. We cannot
therefore extend to him the hand of Christian fellowship. Just so with the Sabbath. Can we fellowship with
the man who violates it? We cannot. On a vital point connected with the teaching of the word of God, we
are at issue; and the union that would otherwise exist between us, is of course destroyed. So with the
subjects of baptism, the sleep of the dead, the destruction of the wicked, etc. Where there is not agreement
in theory, there can be, in the Christian sense, no real communion of heart and fellowship of feeling.
James White, “Fifty Unanswerable Arguments,” Review and Herald, January 14, 1861. (emphasis
supplied).
Notice that James White advises that, “We can but feel that he [Christians of other churches]
shuts his eyes to some of the clearest light of the Scriptures, and refuses assent to their most
unequivocal testimony.” James White stated further that, “Where there is not agreement in
theory, there can be, in the Christian sense, no real communion of heart and fellowship of feeling.”
Did pioneer Adventists believe in Ecumenism? They most definitely did not!
“So far as we know this is the first time anywhere this kind of thing has been done,” the Lincoln
Journal Star reported. Sad to say it was apostate Seventh-day Adventist leadership that condoned
“the first time anywhere this kind of thing has been done.”
Seventh-day Adventist Church Response To Vatican Council II
Arthur S. Maxwell, then Editor of the Signs of the Times, gave an eyewitness report on Vatican
Council II in a sermon given at the University Church at Loma Linda, California. The title of his
sermon, “The Outstretched Hand,” reveals the tone of his message. In his discourse Maxwell
disclosed the names of leading Seventh-day Adventists that had attended Vatican Council II.
This oral report is so foreign to the pioneer Seventh-day Adventist position on the Papacy and
Ecumenism that Maxwell’s astonishing statements must be presented with comment.
First Paragraph of Maxwell’s Report on Vatican Council II
First, the friendliness of the welcome. You see, I’ve been there several times, that is, to Rome. Always a
sort of an iciness there, but not any more, not any more! And it was evident in so many ways. For instance,
in the giving of these press passes, Brother Loewen was there from Religious Liberty, Brother Cottrell from
the Review and Herald, Brother Beach was there from northern Europe, and I was there from the Signs, and
provided you had a good reason for asking for a pass, you got it. If you were an editor or a correspondent for
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a real newspaper, they gave the pass, and they gave them to people of all faiths. Here, four Adventists got
these passes. I thought you would like to see mine. It’s the only document I have which has the crossed keys
and the triple crown on it. I have to be careful when I show this. I don’t want anybody to think I’m going
over to the Church of Rome. But it is a very nice little pass, and it was very valuable. This little pass got
me anywhere I wanted to go at the time of the council.
Arthur S. Maxwell, Editor, Signs of the Times, “The Outstretched Hand,” A Sermon
Report, given at the Loma Linda University Seventh-day Adventist Church, Loma Linda, California. (emphasis supplied).
Comment On the First Paragraph Of Maxwell’s Report
Amazing! This statement is filled with so many astounding details that it is almost impossible to
decide where to begin comment. For one thing, pioneer Seventh-day Adventists would be
appalled by the information disclosed in this one paragraph alone. For example, in the first
sentence Maxwell stated that they received “the friendliness of the welcome.” And in the second
sentence he admitted, “I’ve been there several times, that is, to Rome.” Why? Why had the
Editor of the Signs of the Times been to Rome “several times?” The Vatican is the seat of the
Antichrist, the Beast of Revelation 13! Then Maxwell stated that Rome had always received
them with coldness. Maxwell’s words “a sort of an iciness.” Then he adds with delight, “but not
any more, not any more!” Should not the Seventh-day Adventist “observers” have been alarmed
at the change in their reception by the Papacy? Did not our own Spirit of Prophecy warn that,
“There has been a change; but the change is not in the Papacy.” (The Great Controversy, page 571,
emphasis supplied).
“Catholicism indeed resembles much of the Protestantism that now exists,” Ellen White wrote,
“because Protestantism has so greatly degenerated since the days of the Reformers.” (ibid., GC, p. 571,
emphasis supplied). Have we Seventh-day Adventists also “degenerated” to the point that we
also are becoming like the Church of Rome? Today one could rephrase Ellen White’s statement
to read, “Catholicism indeed resembles much of the Adventism that now exists, because
Adventism has so greatly degenerated since the days of the Pioneers.”
The Roman Church now presents a fair front to the world, covering with apologies her record of horrible
cruelties. She has clothed herself in Christlike garments; but she is unchanged. Every principle of the Papacy
that existed in past ages exists today. The doctrines devised in the darkest ages are still held. Let none
deceive themselves. The papacy that Protestants are now so ready to honor is the same that ruled the world
in the days of the Reformation, when men of God stood up, at the peril of their lives, to expose her iniquity.
She possesses the same pride and arrogant assumption that lorded it over kings and princes, and claimed
the prerogatives of God. Her spirit is no less cruel and despotic now than when she crushed out human liberty
and slew the saints of the Most High.
ibid., Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, page 571. (emphasis supplied).
Then Maxwell disclosed the names of the Adventists who attended Vatican Council II and
admitted that he attended as a representative of the Signs of the Times, the Seventh-day
Adventist premier outreach magazine. As an editor he was given an official pass to Vatican
Council II, but admitted that “they gave them to people of all faiths.” This fact alone should
have alarmed Maxwell. Obviously it did not.
Maxwell then described the insignia on the pass, which should have immediately alarmed even
the most snoring Laodicean. The insignia on the pass “has the crossed keys and the triple crown
on it.” The keys, Roman Catholics believe, represent the “keys of the kingdom” handed down by
the apostle Peter to the succession of Popes as head of the Church. And we all know what the
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triple crown represents – that the Pope is the king of heaven, earth, and the lower regions.
“Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day [the day of the Lord] shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,” the apostle Paul warned. “Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as
God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4, emphasis
supplied).
“I have to be careful when I show this,” Maxwell jokingly admitted. “I don’t want anybody to
think I’m going over to the Church of Rome.”
Notice that Maxwell admitted that the contradictions were so strong that someone might think
that he and the other Adventist “observers” were “going over to the Church of Rome.” This is
like Samuele Bacchiocchi, in his earlier lectures, donning the scarlet cap and gown of the Jesuit
order and jokingly asking his audience, “Have you ever seen a Seventh-day Adventist Jesuit?”and
then some ten years later lamenting, “You know, I’ve been accused of being a Jesuit!”
Second Paragraph of Maxwell’s Report on Vatican Council II
Then, another aspect of the friendliness–the way they arranged for the press of the world to have the best
seats at the opening ceremony. I sat closer to the Pope than any of the cardinals. I was only forty feet away
from him for three or four hours, and I had the clearest view, just as clear as some of you forty feet away. The
reason I know he was forty feet away–I stepped it out after the service was over, because I thought, “Nobody
will ever believe me, that I sat so long, so near to His Holiness.” But I had a wonderful view, and I saw
some most fascinating close-up views which I won’t tell you now, but I would tell some of you privately–
some very, very interesting little human details, which you see only when you’re very close in.
ibid., Arthur S. Maxwell, Editor, Signs of the Times, “The Outstretched Hand,” A Sermon Report, given
at the Loma Linda University Seventh-day Adventist Church, Loma Linda, California. (emphasis supplied).
Comment On the Second Paragraph Of Maxwell’s Report
“I sat closer to the Pope than any of the cardinals,” Maxwell boasted. One would think from this
statement that Maxwell was looking upon the Pope as he is reverently viewed by members of the
Roman Church.
“The Pope is not a mere man, but as it were God and vicar of God.”
“The Pope is not only the vicar of Christ, he is Jesus Christ, hidden under the Vail of flesh.”
“Nobody will ever believe me,” Maxwell stated, in awe of the Antichrist seated on his throne not
more than forty feet away, “that I sat so long, so near to His Holiness.”
How in the world could a high official of the Seventh-day Adventist Church call the man of sin,
“His Holiness?” Pioneer Seventh-day Adventists would be astonished that an Adventist would
refer to the Antichrist as “His Holiness.” It is astounding to discover that Maxwell and the other
Seventh-day Adventist “observers” were deceived, just as verily as were other Protestant
“observers,” by the cunning flattery of the Roman Catholic Church. What would be the response
from Ellen White and other pioneer Adventists if told that, “I sat closer to the Pope than any of
the cardinals.”
The Papacy is just what prophecy declared that she would be, the apostasy of the latter times. [2
Thessalonians 2:3, 4]. It is a part of her policy to assume the character which will best accomplish her
purpose; but beneath the variable appearance of the chameleon she conceals the invariable venom of the
serpent. “Faith ought not to be kept with heretics, nor persons suspected of heresy.” (Lenfant, volume 1,
page 516), she [the Papacy] declares. Shall this power, whose record for a thousand years is written in the blood
of the saints, be now acknowledged as a part of the church of Christ?
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Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, page 571. (emphasis supplied).
Third Paragraph of Maxwell’s Report on Vatican II
Then, another aspect of this new friendliness, was the pope’s opening speech. I have it with me. I’m not
going to read it because it took a long time, but it was a beautiful speech. This was at the opening of the
final session. Do you know what his subject was? Love. I quote one paragraph: . . ..
ibid., Arthur S. Maxwell, Editor, Signs of the Times, “The Outstretched Hand,” A Sermon Report, given
at the Loma Linda University Seventh-day Adventist Church, Loma Linda, California. (emphasis
supplied)..
Comment On the Third Paragraph Of Maxwell’s Report
Maxwell was not only mesmerized by the great show of splendor at Vatican Council II, sitting so
close to “His Holiness,” but he was also deceived by the words of the Antichrist! “He shall speak
great words against the most High.” (Daniel 7:25). Speaking of the Pope’s address at the opening
of the final session, Maxwell commented that, “it was a beautiful speech.” Then Maxwell asked
and answered his own question, “Do you know what his subject was? Love.”
“Her spirit is no less cruel and despotic now than when she crushed out human liberty and slew
the saints of the Most High,” Ellen White replies. (GC, p. 571).
Love and beautiful, or, cruel and despotic? Who is right, friend, the Pope, the Adventist
“observers,” or Ellen White, who wrote through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? Who will you
believe? That the SDA leadership would, by the year 1962, so degenerate in their attitude
toward Rome is so incomprehensible, so unfathomable, so incoherent, so baffling and
bewildering, so mind-boggling, that it is impossible to find words in the English language to
describe the astonishment of any wide-awake Seventh-day Adventist who loves the three angel’s
messages.
Apostasy In Displaying the Cross
Papists place crosses upon their churches, upon their altars, and upon their garments. Everywhere is seen the insignia of the cross. Everywhere it is outwardly honored and exalted. But the teachings of Christ are buried
beneath a mass of senseless traditions, false interpretations, and rigorous exactions. The Saviour’s words
concerning the bigoted Jews, apply with still greater force to the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church:
“They bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.” Matthew 23:4. Conscientious souls are kept in constant terror fearing the wrath of an offended God, while many of the dignitaries of the church are living in luxury and
sensual pleasure.
Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, page 568. (emphasis supplied).
Does this testimony now apply to Seventh-day Adventists? Today we see that Seventh-day
Adventists also “place crosses upon their churches, [and] upon their altars.” Will the next step be for Adventists to place the cross “upon their garments?”
Notice that, “The Saviour’s words concerning the bigoted Jews, apply with still greater force to the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church.” Moreover, the people who believe in this apostate
church system live in fear “while many of the dignitaries of the church are living in luxury and sensual pleasure.” Today one could apply this testimony to the contemporary Seventh-day
Adventist Church. The leaders are “bigoted,” while the people who believe in the SDA Church
system live in fear of ecclesiastical authority, “while many of the dignitaries of the church areliving in luxury and sensual pleasure.”
ABOUT THE SYMBOLS
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CHANGES TAKING PLACE IN YOU LOCAL SDA ... CHURCH
During the last few years I have seen the transformation of several SDA churches from having the 3 Angels symbol to crosses. Why is that, and what does it represent? Are you being lied to? You would be surprised to learn the true facts:
http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2011/12/seventh-day-adventistssign-change.html
http://www.temcat.com/013-Spiritualism/3-WAVY-LINES.pdf
HAVE YOUR CHURCH CHANGED IT'S LOGO ALSO? THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE SYMBOLS MEAN AND DARE TO RAISE A PROTEST AGAINST IT! I'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU.
"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.
"Who has authority to begin such a movement? We have our Bibles. We have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth?"
Ellen White wrote that there was to be a satanic reformation and movement within the Seventh-day Adventist church that would consist in giving up the original doctrines and pillars of Adventism, and thus "our religion would be changed."
FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION [The reading of this article is long but well documented and very rewarding!]
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